Podcast Ep. 1 | Dog Psychology vs. Human Psychology (Natural Dog Behavior)
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hey pups and peeps as angie was the dog
psychology 101 we are so happy that you
found us this is our very first podcast
and we want to introduce you to the
world of dog psychology or another term
for that with the natural dog behavior
and we specialize in saving dogs lives
who have trouble it’s my son Josh he’s
my right-hand man and helps me do all
things dog and so we want to introduce
you to our philosophy and concept and
really explain what dog psychology means
and what is natural dog behavior welcome
so dog psychology how would you describe
it just it’s it’s the sob the science
the understanding of how our dog thinks
operates which is knows the first thing
I think most people have a hard time
with is wrapping their brain around the
dog has no words in their head so their
animals just like we are we’re animals
too but we have this verbal language so
I think probably primarily the nose
number one but this non language part
think about the why is this happening
what’s going on what causes it part
mm-hmm but the gist is intelligent or
near it with us or any other dog maybe
but yeah of I see it I connected I see
what’s going on this is a very different
yes yeah we all hear about how dogs live
in the moment and really for those of us
who may live in the world where we
practice a little meditation you know or
something like that that is us living in
the moment it’s really focusing right
now words corrupt our world it’s true it
really creates our world and all these
little things that are going around
whether it’s your to-do list or being
angry or what somebody said to you
yesterday dogs don’t have it it’s a
great thing so wrapping our brain around
that yes very lucky very very lucky so a
huge part of our job is taking people
nonverbal language
but really having this understanding
about what psychology is you know we had
human psychologists mm-hmm
they specialized in the way that we
think and interpret the world and
dealing with situations well dog
psychology requires us to learn about
dogs and honored the dog dogs are people
what would you say about that
dogs definitely not people yes no
frontal lobe correct it’s it’s it’s hard
harder for some than others you know I
think in not to dumb it down a lot I
think dogs are dumb compared to humans
but it is a more basic yes it’s hard to
explain it some people take it in a
different way here’s the way I like to
share it and I had a client shared this
with me and gave me this thought and I
thought it was really nice analogy so
dogs are the kindergarden box of crayons
mm-hmm simple colors yes they have
emotions people who argue that animals
don’t have emotions I think are just so
dogs definitely have emotions but they
don’t have the same type of brain that
we have right well we have a reptilian
brain a million brain they just can’t do
what we do and it’s not a bad thing it’s
just honoring who they are right so so
understanding that just really getting
people out of their head and kind of
into nature about nature going back to
nature
so trouble dogs really put us on the map
it’s what we specialize in
really aggressive dog or really fearful
dogs and things like that
but we can help dogs who don’t have
released severe problems relax and have
a more balanced relationship and
understanding the world yes in a much
clearer sense matter of fact I was
working with somebody the other day and
they loved the idea that they’ve been
working on a lot a lot of a it was a dog
with without any severe behavioral
issues there’s more like the dog gives a
young German Shepherd silly Fifi was
lacking in the self-control like manners
jumping over yes
and they had a legitimate level of
obedience and they would say they were
down it would stay but it continued to
make the same mistake
their relationship was still alright and
so we started talking and and I
explained the how the way we’re gonna
learn how to incorporate what we’re what
we bring to the table is the dog will
now be able to understand through some
repetition at some time of what it is
you the behavior that does its problem
if they learn the manners issue because
you can tell them to sit when they’re
misbehaving but more than likely all
they understand is you said put my butt
on the ground they never connected the
behavioral problem that they’re bringing
right don’t stop the behavior right
right because it means I think if I was
like my children this is where it’s it’s
super similar if if I want a certain
behavior in the same public at the
restaurant when we’re waiting for a
table we teach our children how to have
manners how to sit how to have a lower
energy level on a tone yes we don’t go
to the restaurant and say sit stay
exactly we go talk many people think
because their dog is has obedience
training
to play down that your relationship is
in order when it’s really all of the
other stuff how do you interact when
you’re just sitting in the living room
how do you interact when you maybe you
gotta sit down for me or do you put some
boundaries there so really natural dog
behavior means we set rules and
boundaries and limitations on dogs just
like we do our children without being
harsh or hurtful or abusive or hitting
or kicking or yelling yes so our basic
philosophy is calmness and competence
absolutely yeah and don’t you agree that
most people come to us anxious nervous
oh absolutely sure yes fearful sometimes
mmm so balance the human right and that
it’s hard to be confident when you don’t
know what today and you’ve had bad
experiences or your or your baby you’re
afraid you’re gonna cause problems with
your dog gonna make it worse
make them afraid anxious
there was more aggressive reactive
whatever the case is yeah so first
question we asked people many times is
what kind of rules do you get your dog
and many times that answer is no or
they’re a little dumbfounded by the
question and we do a lot of little
simple things to give dogs rules the
invisible line which basically means
thresholds doorways and things sometimes
just making them wait a little bit
teaching them patience that works on the
impulse control right because we have to
start working on calmness and quietness
and thinking though this focus is
probably the best focus attention yes
connection that’s what it all creates if
you don’t have that it’s it’s difficult
if not impossible to start to create an
education they have to start to
understand the moment it may take
several similar moments before they
start to be able to connect things and
it depends on their level of
intelligence our level of so really
we’re people teachers teachers but it’s
how we live with our dogs we talk a lot
about lifestyle change and really I
would think setting a goal before even
continuing listening to our podcast in
the future thinking about what kind of
relationship do you want with your dog
because that’s really the goal that
you’re working toward and I ask people
regularly do have you ever met seen
someone in public with their dog who’s
so connected and in tune they’re without
a leash that all goes with them it
doesn’t mean we’re staring at the human
all the time it just means that we are
actually connected kind of like you are
with your spouse if you’re out for a
walk you’re supposed to be together
you’re holding hands are chit-chatting
if it you’re together even though maybe
you’re interacting with others mmm
that’s my always my goal I say the truth
is when you’re off leash with your dog
yes so many people if you ask them how
was your dog off leash and they kind of
come back and you like oh my god I’ve
never even tried so we can talk about
long line works but we can experiment
with that and see how our dog listens
through distractions but having that
what I call like your PhD level
relationship with your dog
you can be off leash be anywhere in the
world your dog is connected to you is
compliant to you
and that comes through being more
natural with your dog which means both
praise and love but also rules and
boundary setting and structure has to
come through both not just one or the
other
mm-hmm it does and talk about this so
much too because really we are our own
worst enemy mm-hmm
we feel really bad about a lot of the
things that we need to do because we
assume it has this negativity attached
to it that comes from our compassion
yeah no we are very passionate loving
creatures and so the the thought of
restricting the dog from doing anything
that they want or enjoy their happiness
yes yeah and that is a great idea but
it’s not the way the world works that’s
not the key things negative but we’ve
got to start somewhere rules if we’re
doing something wrong yeah right our
parents would you know it’s an education
again everything we do is either yes or
no hmm and if we ignore it it’s a yes
correct many people are taught to ignore
bad behavior turning their back on dogs
yielding to them moving out of their way
things like that so yes or no
everything’s an education it’s really
important to me for the sake of the dog
yeah hey it makes my life easier
the dogs respond and move much faster
right but as its to me it’s not fair if
the dog doesn’t understand that
something is wrong so it needs to be
changed and this I thought was it it’s
an inappropriate behavior maybe just
needs to be slowed down a little more
gentle maybe you need to pay more
attention to figure out when it’s okay
to to behave in whatever way that’s like
greetings and excitement levels and
where it’s appropriate where it’s not I
talk about this all the time because the
way that we communicate with dogs yes is
a lot of eye contact and body language
obviously they don’t speak yes and so
it’s it’s the other forms of
communication that even we use just not
as much but we’re teaching the dog if
you don’t educate them it’s to me the
you step in that and think about you
living in a world where nobody has has
explained any rules to you and you don’t
speak don’t speak the language and you
know imagine what that’s like when you
know think about the dogs that are
really sweet they’re crazy they’re wild
and neither shunned they pushed away
they don’t get to interact or they’re
constantly kind of pushed away they’re
not getting the interaction they’re
looking for they don’t know why they
don’t know why anything’s happening and
a lot of misinterpretation and it’s not
fair for the dog right which ultimately
decreases whatever it is you want to do
whether you’re having some severe
reactions or you just have a dog with
really bad manners they you’re
restricting their life exactly you don’t
know what to do you can’t control them
essentially but you don’t need to have
to it’s not necessary controls is
teaching the dogs control right like I
think humans things right barring I must
control right it’s like parenting
actually I’m a controlling parameters
operate inside these parameters
everything’s cool mm-hmm if you operate
outside these parameters or attempt to
operate outside these parameters then
there is a pressure put on you what to
get you to change you can also reward
once they do the right thing right we’re
not anti positivity at all at all but
there’s a proper place to put it and
then we also want to make sure that
we’re not increasing adrenaline while we
praise absolutely and praise could be
lots of things
no just hitting on that real quick I
think we bring a lot of positivity to
what we do but it’s not what most of us
associate to positive when it comes to
you to training or teaching dogs right
it’s with a lower energy level it’s more
natural positivity there’s nothing wrong
with positive reinforcement style
training especially with the treats and
clickers and and and a lot of noise but
there are some places where too much
escalation and energy makes things
harder yes I I relate children dogs so
much
if I get take my children and I give
them a bunch of sugar and caffeine and
let that kick in full blast and then we
sit down and try to do math it’s not
very difficult
nothing wrong with that had been crazy
and excited but when we’re trying to
achieve certain goals we just learn to
think about things in that fashion we be
more focused more calm no Disneyland
state of mind is is for Disneyland yes
yes so setting yourself up and making a
plan for the environment that we’re
gonna go encounter or work a situation
and be able to overcome that it’s kind
of cool yes yeah the teachers not gonna
teach what everybody’s going crazy
that’s right we just sit down to focus
and then we have recess we have gym
whatever the case is so what we’re what
would be some examples that you would
save some positivity that comes through
them hey is this is weird if you haven’t
maybe experienced it or a practice
enough for dogs dogs know how you feel
when I’m positive and happy they know
that but you know I I I do a lot of
positivity in the way I do things I used
my voice oh do a lot of allow a lot of
things but I can also see when things
are getting out of control and it’s a
lot of like whoa too much letting them
know we use treat training sometimes you
know I actually think it was more of
like our scale
yeah I’m sure discussed at some point of
you know where are you on almost
balanced scale you have a negative side
which is nervous or anxious very
excitable I I do a lot of what dogs are
unsure nervous I bring a little
something positive to pull them out of
the negative Hoey yes to bring them more
to that zero balance stage this is where
we were making mistake is a natural
human do you know when to stop
yeah right the dog he’s nervous with me
I’m a stranger there in my center there
let’s say they’re in a crater they’re
outside and they’re really shy you know
I can understand I’m a little shy and
bring a little sweetness something
positive to get them moving but then not
overdoing it I don’t want to take a
nervous dog and create an excited dog
right right right in the middle so that
they can understand balance
so let’s teach everybody our scale
because that’s gonna really allow us to
share a lot of information
okay so zero is like the middle of the
road it’s happy relaxed submissive dog
who’s just feeling good and chill below
zero behaviors or things like worry
nervous fearful anxious and we make the
negative side down there the above side
would be hyper excited dominant
aggression anything in that family of
yours playful / playful right so if we
think 0 and then 1 to 10 on either side
of that then we have to kind of
calibrate ourselves when we’re working
with people because sometimes I think
it’s a level 2 and they say it’s a level
8 so 10 being the worst that you could
ever imagine and one being the thoughts
right so we’re big thought catchers we
once you are efficient and proficient
and seeing language you can see these
little thoughts and some things then so
probably our biggest difference between
us and others and part of being in the
natural world means that we also
disagree with behaviors absolutely and
balance and all things
yeah so that’s really what makes us
difference and I would say the hardest
thing for most people is taking
excitement and reducing it down to calm
dealing with adrenalin that way right
because adrenalin is a big part of the
issue with dogs and high-energy dogs
harder they are and coming back to our
soft lovey side we when I say we I said
most most of us I would say I haven’t
met many people that see it differently
unless it just gets on your nerves and
your wor down excitement is not
necessarily happy no excitement can just
be excitement overwhelming yes no I
think we understand it because you know
but in this boat at one point of my life
is you see happiness seem to intensify
when you get them excited but in all
honesty I think most of us could agree
if you take away the excitement they’re
just as happy yes it’s just I personally
says I know that I enjoy seeing about
Weebly totally a time for that yes
there’s a time for cuttin loose and
playing and being a level-10 playful
which totally there’s a time just like
taking our kids back to the restaurant
there’s a time when we’re meeting new
people when we’re in public when we’re
socializing in a non-playable way we
come back at as much as I like it and
the dog likes it but water don’t need
mm-hmm and it’s not always what I’ve I
don’t get caught up and always with the
dog once he’s like me as a father father
my children do whatever they want all
the time it’s gonna cause a problem at
some point they don’t know sure most of
us at a certain point in our life
appreciated the rules and boundaries our
parents created for us as children even
though we did not feel that way until
this moment oh gosh yes we parents you
know and even if you don’t have children
you’ve been around children so we
understand that children who understand
boundaries who know how to focus who
have control over their impulses who are
spending spontaneous all the time or
happier children what comes down to
mental exercise is majority is thinking
yes I thinking about how you’re behaving
less in school we call it what art in
math yes math and PE work vacation it’s
a different state of mind they have the
place yeah and if we don’t allow them to
think about how to approach things
properly the brain never works does an
exercise energy builds up and this is
where we we really all experienced this
I think when the energy builds up it
layers up and it’s got to find its way
out somewhere it’s very rarely is gonna
find its way out in a behavior or a
state of mind that that we enjoy it
might be a healthy outlet right it could
be chewing licking not listening barking
barking struck today once again my kids
know as you know
JT is my son he’s five he’s he’s very
well-behaved and and but he is he’s a
high-energy child baby the high-energy
lover and let’s say if it were to rain
for a solid week or two like if
sometimes does here in Georgia if I
don’t get him out get him busy we don’t
find some way to stimulate him he can’t
like I’ve seen this he can’t help it he
may come out of his room he’s got one of
his toys he’s been all boy he’s banging
it around bail out really noisy and so
we have to have the no no no let’s calm
down or you can take that to your room
or to the playroom he’s very polite so
it’s yes sir he goes no no arguing yeah
but I can promise you ten minutes later
he’s back outside with a whole different
toy doing very similar things and he the
energy is there he’s got to come out he
goes he focuses he listens but then it
builds his way back up how many times
have we seen that oh yeah the dog chews
the dog does this it’s a nice dog they
listen listen but they’re gonna do it
again right and again we can’t be mad at
them you know we call it cabin fever I
get that way I can’t get satisfied you
could stand around walk around nothing
is making me happy yeah so cabin fever
comes from the house in the yard now
it’s in the yard house in the yard you
know when did you go for a walk well
four weeks ago last year but I’ve got a
huge backyard
yes well you stay every day mm-hmm which
is all good yeah never bad never beat
you for that we don’t think about it
this place right yeah well we don’t you
know so I also have a non-profit you
know we all know that here but I
introduced everybody else to tell dog
Corps and you know so I get to visit
poor countries and see a lot of street
dogs and I always go back to street dogs
they don’t migrate in the way that birds
might migrate or wildebeest might
migrate but they move they do have
territories that they do move and they
work all day not all day but they have
to work for what they get there’s no
kibble in the bowl right and so when I’m
around a street dog population nobody
pests them these are the crazy Americans
who go to holiday they’re not just out
biting people you’re not seeing there’s
some things I really noticed about
street dogs and I come here you’ll hear
me talk about these a lot because they
are the epitome of dogs they are
domestic dogs who haven’t been corrupted
by people yeah
and so we get to see this natural side
of them but they scavenge they scavenge
maybe a tiny bit of hunting but those
guys are tired they’re zero OCD
behaviors zero think granulomas on your
feet there’s zero repetitive things
there’s no radical aggression it’s
pretty cool thing to see even though I
will say that most dogs who live in
places like that are miserable from lack
of health care or like a food wreck
so so mentally if they’re probably more
stable and happy in many actually yes
however I do have one of these little
pot cakes out of the Bahamas that I
brought home she’s awesome but I do meet
other pot cakes and other dogs who maybe
have come from Iraq we meet some who
come from Thailand Korea a lot of dog
meat farm types and puppy mill types
here in America especially so we work
with those kind of kids who sometimes
when they come off the streets right
they become terrorists here in America
they start looking aggressive and
behaving aggressively and it’s because
they have now been cooped up they’ve
taken them from a natural state to a
prison State you’re feeding them you’re
loving on them but they’re not being
psychologically satisfied they become
Americans great segue to talk about our
culture in America and the way that we
think and feel about dogs it really
creates how we behave with dogs when the
rest of the world predominately even if
you’re let’s just say a European you
know they’re much like us they still
don’t live the same way that we do it
don’t totally different mindset right
right
poor countries are not typically soft
and squishy with dogs dogs or dogs
mostly live outside sometimes living
inside but mostly outside and they’re a
little more of an animal in those
countries yes I’ve been in Europe right
there much like we are very civilized
industrialized I must say
nobody else’s symbolize or just
progressive but nobody people in Europe
don’t ask to pet your dog when you’re
Republican they’re everywhere right so I
found out the first time I went years
ago I thought that was pretty amazing
you know being in Paris dogs at you know
cafes inside restaurants inside little
stores and things like that but I did
notice that nobody was walking up asking
could I pet your dog there was no
interaction and the dogs were so in tune
with their people many times they’re not
even on a leash look they’re just
following through the city you know I’ve
heard Americans say I wonder if that dog
belong to anybody so it’s a really
interesting I talk a lot about how the
American culture keeps us in business
it’s true we do things like Americans
like go sit at a Starbucks for the cute
little thing they’re not even a cute
little thing just a dog sit a Starbucks
or a restaurant and write many many
people are gonna come and try to pet
your dog now we’re not saying don’t pet
dogs right but we’re teaching dogs
humans equal crazy just because I may
not do it or do it very often doesn’t
mean I don’t want to I am a human we I
have the urge yes yeah it’s also why I
have 22 touching lives and interactive
yes we love to touch animals now we’re
not anti touch but back to dogs kind of
making associations to things that every
time a person walks up to you and they
have a excitable bit of a party with you
what you think that meeting a person
equals excitement what’s creating an
energy okay how how hard is it to be
connected to pay attention to to be with
the human if you’re constantly
distracted with a very positive little
reward so let’s say it’s hard for me to
expect my children to be focused on me
and not get lost or distracted
constantly if they know every time we go
out in public
somebody has candy cupcakes
there are constantly a person oh my god
you’re so cute here have this it’s a
reward is something that they like and
so of course we go out there ting ting
where’s the next person what’s going on
here even if it’s not looking for
certain things we don’t have
the the amount of connectivity that we
need right I say the majority of their
focus is out in the world and this is
the way I think we’ve got a 100% to work
with yeah
I think things are healthy when I have
51% or more it depends on the dog or the
animal the child whatever is going on
it’s all the same to me
enjoy what’s going on you know if your
dog sniff look use your nose use your
eyes usually ears but let’s stay within
a certain boundary and that boundary
creates you being connected to you and
always give me your attention when I
asked for it which that is really the
secret sauce the juice of life with your
dog is you should be able to get your
dog’s attention no matter what he for
your relationship and safety right if we
live like that we’d be running into
things constantly walking down the
street we’ve seen this and how many
times people have run into you in
possibly because they’re not paying
right now everybody’s got their heads
and their phones they’re texting and
walking and it could be dangerous we
have to moderate the dogs it’s the same
thing you teach them to be all over the
place
listen they get caught up at the moment
yeah can you blame them missile exercise
and physical exercise that combination
opens up the little flower of the brain
always that entire dogs kind of like JT
they’re closed down right tired dogs
listen to you crucial you can have a lot
of freedom and this is where I think
there’s a lot of misconceptions and
misinterpretations and as a human I
think it’s natural to focus on the
things that we hear about maybe this
style of operating that is that it’s not
pleasant the parts that we don’t enjoy
and it is it’s the restrictive side we
don’t think about the positivity because
there is a lot of freedom yes now
sometimes you have to work your way to
get to that point and that’s the painful
process for for us as the patients but
it’s it’s it’s all balanced I think
everything that we do is finding is we
talk so much about balance our scale
about the brain is about balance you
know our our techniques and our
philosophy
even is finding a balance between what
we believe and well how we operate in
what others do you know some are
open-minded to us some are not that’s
natural you know it’s it’s but I think a
lot of people focus on the same thing
they think that we’re mean it were harsh
we’re saying no alot and it makes it a
negative thing the dogs having a
negative experience is really not I
wanna say no where’s necessary one as
many times as it takes for the dog to
understand because the other side you
may not realize is as they behave in a
more proper way things are opening up
there’s freedom
immediately because that’s them for me
that’s the natural rewards much as I
want to say good boy I don’t because I
don’t want to create too much excitement
which maybe puts us back to square one
I just relaxed the rules relax we get to
do more we start moving more you know
more positive things more places play
you’re in the house and it’s my feeling
it’s the vibe it’s you know maybe
whatever he does you like to do with the
more they they understand the more we
get to do ya mean how many people cannot
take their dogs places nice or whether
they’re having a behavioral issues is
more serious because they can’t control
the dog roll back to rules equal freedom
you hear me say that a million times
because the more someone understands or
something and understands then the more
we get to go versus having to leave them
at the house absolute here’s here’s
something for those that could be even
questioning and listening to this
because I try to put myself in the shoes
of somebody who’s never been in this
world you have to also think about this
dogs do not learn the way we learn like
we read a book we sit down we’ll take a
course somebody tells us what to do
we’re guided through the whole process
verbally we get a lot of steps step by
step instruction we know what to do
before we’re doing it or as we’re doing
it makes things easy don’t have the
option we can’t talk to the dog we can’t
show them they can’t read it so they
learn more what like most creatures what
you have to have whatever experience
you’re having there has to be some sort
of connect
in there whether it’s good it’s bad I do
I don’t and this is where as a human you
can implement timing through your
disagreements and they can learn by
process of elimination called the path
of least resistance
the path I want the dogs to find is I
promise no different than anybody else
it’s fun it’s it’s happy it’s love it’s
it’s all the good things but I know the
fastest way to get there the dog to
understand how to do it what to do and
be more more stable as I let them
naturally make their own decision and I
block it if it’s inappropriate or I slow
it down until they do it properly sounds
like you’re funneling them into yes I
say you know put us in the same
situation you dropped in a situation
you’ve never done nobody can talk to you
or tell you what to do you’ve got to
figure it out the easiest thing is for
me to try this is somebody’s like
operation you find the boundaries and
you figure out how to do it the key is
you do it without don’t scream don’t
yell don’t feel angry don’t be angry
don’t try to intimidate the dog
emotional it’s stopping trying to gain
some sort of connection control
attention we Center and then we retry it
retry it this is how they learn now
there are people who maybe take this
similar concept and they’re way too
harsh they’re way too mean well they’re
not in control of themselves they get
frustrated they get angry and then
you’ve got just the outside perception
most of us have gotten the look from
their parents their spouse correct
normally the ones you making me exactly
even on that topic we deal with a lot of
nervous anxious dogs
it’s very common predominance I have I
know for a fact it works very well to
put a light amount of pressure on the
dog that maybe makes them feel
uncomfortable only to pull it back away
like a normal thing let’s say they’re
nervous and they they bark at me I
disagree with it but then I back off as
soon as they stop barking just to show
them wasn’t a big deal and they go
doesn’t push them in a hole like many of
us may think okay you don’t put pressure
on the nervous doll gonna make it worse
it’s actually no now they trust me yes I
said hey that was bounce and I relax if
you’re nervous right now somebody is
hiss set-screws sorry but somebody set
rules
somebody somebody said what is not going
to happen or what’s inappropriate which
means they’re taking control somebody’s
taking some status so you’re nervous
you’re not built to have that status any
that’s right
and they did it in a way that did not
promote fear my cognitive therapy with
humans you’re gonna do something that
makes you uncomfortable but then in the
end result if the therapist is doing it
correctly you don’t have a negative
experience positive I would say it’s
kind of like for me you know it’s also
funny
I say you didn’t die yeah you got to
come out I didn’t die nothing bad
happened it wasn’t as traumatizing as it
was as I thought it might be and yes
maybe you don’t love it you’re not
comfortable with it but you’re a little
micro step closer yeah and then the
repetition and the repetition and as
things are allowing to you can start to
make it bigger mm-hmm it’s almost like
you’re putting a little something to
numb that nerves over time over time you
kind of it gets less sensitive and less
sensitive so the more you practice the
easier it gives plus when you take over
the dogs you begin the process of trust
the structure brings about trust and if
you’re nervous and fearful you need to
trust somebody absolutely because I call
it the middle schooler that pays the
mortgage when you have a nervous dog who
is in charge of their family that is why
you’re seeing all this over reactivity I
don’t know what to do with it
they can’t cuss you out right so they
try to bite you it’s an overreaction we
do the same thing in areas when when the
stress hits and it comes down to do or
die you freak out the best defense is a
big office sometimes you know that might
roll through my head if I were in a
situation I felt completely overwhelmed
and helpless for some weird reason maybe
be one of my weird dreams
I’m gonna be attacked by a group of
people if I don’t know what to do my
last option might be I’m just gonna act
like a crazy maniac and hopefully they
run away it works about me and we see
that it’s natural stones
that’s why help well there’s a few
things to learn about not taking it
personally you know we will kind of fall
back on the things that we kind of meant
we see is like mentoring behaviors and
how we get here but not taking things
personally a teaching when a dog does
something they’re not supposed to do it
has nothing to do with you right you
know most people are so narcissistic
it’s everything to do with them and then
they get mad and upset because we’re
trying to teach the dog something dogs
not listening well it’s process
processes
yes progressed through and teach so not
to be upset and then the other side of
that is thinking about like what is
praise right so praises a lot of things
not all dogs were food motivated we deal
with those you know we talk with
different dog analyses and different
human a luyties in that match but some
dog analogies are zero in the food but
maybe they’re awesome sniffers maybe
they’re super social maybe they just
want to sniff to new human coming in
well I just teach you if you calm down
you get to snip the person’s rights
maybe the person doesn’t give you a tree
you don’t care about that or maybe
you’re a crazy ball ever
so maybe new people can make friends
threw a ball after we meet quietly um
all sorts of things people coming into
the house people like it I don’t let the
dog come to the person right away it’s
so crazy so once you calm down the
reward is whatever it is you want to do
in this moment as long as it’s healthy
so good
praise to be so many different things we
just have to learn to see it it’s
individual well we hope we’ve given this
kind of introduction so you can see who
we are some you know people call me the
dr. Phil of the dog world because I’m
brutally honest and I believe in being
brutally honest because it’s how I help
you it’s not making excuses for a dog or
human ever but normally when we start
pointing things out and we’re trying to
understand why they became this way in
their family some many people want to
make excuses for the dog because they
loved them so much
it’s kind of like enabling behavior in
the human world yes and like you
mentioned what we do with dogs is
literally cognitive behavioral therapy
just like people do it’s just that we
call it natural dog behavior or dog
psychology but they need to go into
situations that cause problems yes and
learn how to work them we don’t believe
in distracting a dog from a problem
mm-hmm
no distracting a dog if you’re less
reactive you need to learn how to look
at the dog and pay yes we don’t wanna
make you look away right so these are
some of the real basic things we’re
gonna get deep into we’re gonna get
super deep into kids and dogs really
making that connection we’re having a
lot of kid problems right now with the
lack of structure and rules with
children and if you like this these
thoughts some ways of thinking I think
you’ll enjoy what we do and you know but
if you listen to Tony Robbins you’ll
love us if you’re a Cesar Millan lover
you’ll love us if you’ve never been in
Wayne Dyer Eckhart Tolle Oprah Winfrey
all these teachers in the world who
really have some cool things to say and
it’s kind of where I get all my thoughts
feeling in education yeah always be the
student absolutely never stop being
students dogs teach us things every day
people teach us things every day I love
people not just dogs I don’t prefer dogs
over people I love them both wrap up
with and we’re gonna we would love to
see your comments down below because we
want to know what you want to know I was
gonna say I wanna know you know not only
you know what specific topics do you
want to know more about or issues or
problems I want to only really tap into
the community that feels that’s curious
about this but maybe feels like it is
too abrasive or they’re nervous about it
or the problems that may cause because I
really like to focus a lot on getting
everybody understanding and liking it on
board that wants to be that maybe has a
hard time so that I can explain the soft
side of what you may be seen as a little
forward or abrasive and getting in my
head and seeing how we do things
yeah and so much is like we say there’s
so many things that you can do they
don’t know what they seem it looks like
what it feels like it’s all about
the intention and the way you do it
you’re disagreeing doesn’t have to be a
bad thing rule city doesn’t have to be a
bad thing they can be yes just like in
our world yeah there are some people who
have rules and boundaries and they are
not nice about it yes some love their
job when they are here to make a
difference in our community and they do
it well yes
it requires cooperation mm-hmm the
cooperation doesn’t always have to be an
option this is what I want to get into
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you know what do you seeing further
further explanation I will put some
links to will make some show notes and
such and we’ll put some links on some
things that we enjoy learning and
reading about maybe share you know we
also love the Pirellis Linda and Pat
Parelli they are natural horsemanship
people just like we are natural dog
people we are working on dog analogy
together which is a dog’s personality
assessment coming out very soon the beta
testing as we speak
and we got a lot of cool stuff on the
horizon the book will be ready here
shortly but yeah we want to hear
questions we’re not afraid of positive
or negative questions we’d like to
implement help people an answer and we
know that not everybody is gonna agree
with us that’s okay mm-hmm we really
believe in forming a tribe and come on
if not ask questions we’re okay with it
right that nature is nature we don’t
fight it and we just hope to bring more
people into this instinctual side
balance we won’t find the balance
between nature in the human world we’ve
got to find an in-between that’s right
we are who we are we are we are we just
want everybody to be happy so really our
our message is really deeply seated in
love and positivity but also in mother
nature and how she does things which
means there’s a yin and a yang yes then
I know I’m positive in a negative but
not negative isn’t hurtful it’s just a
teaching through it so hopefully this
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